The King is Dead

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  • #15606

    anonymous
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    no, not Elvis.There are some who believe that Edward IV was illegitimate and thus should not have been king. The real king, they say, was living in Australia.  This man passed away last week.  More fodder for the War of the Roses podcast  :)  http://www.bbcamerica.com/anglophenia/2012/07/royal-roundup-the-man-who-should-be-king-dies-in-australia/

  • #18290

    WhovianKate
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    That was wild! I pretty much buy the illegitimacy story, although I'm trying to keep a healthy skepticism and think of how it could work out that Edward IV was premature. However that makes me wonder (as I'm a Tudor nut and love that period of history) if Henry Fitzroy could have succeeded to the throne at some point after Henry VIII's death if he himself had survived, seeing as he was illegitimate but was recognized by Henry VIII and I believe made his heir? I could be wrong on that last part as I'm getting most of what I know from the Showtime series, etc. If Fitzroy could/would have succeeded, then I'm not entirely sure that the premise on Edward IV makes any difference, as it would show that bastardy is not necessarily an all-encompassing bar to the succession.

  • #18291

    Kbird
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    @ whovian, that's so funny.  I started learning about the Tudors from the novel “the Other Boleyn Girl” and was so entranced that I had to read the real history. Now my daughter's Brit lit teacher is…ill-at-ease with me knowing a tad more on that subject.  Also, "whovian" refer to Dr Who.  I'm a big American fan from back in the 20 min episode times.

  • #18292

    WhovianKate
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    20 minutes in an episode? eew, how could you stand it? yes the reference is to Doctor Who, I'm a big fan of the new series and have yet to check out the “classic” but will someday. totally kicking myself that I somehow had not heard about the new Torchwood that is on Starz until way after the first season of it, debating whether I want to add it to the cable package for $12/month. Anyways, what are your thoughts on the succession issue? the more I think about it, the more I wonder if the bastardy issue was really that important

  • #18293

    anonymous
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    20 minutes in an episode? eew, how could you stand it? yes the reference is to Doctor Who, I'm a big fan of the new series and have yet to check out the "classic" but will someday. totally kicking myself that I somehow had not heard about the new Torchwood that is on Starz until way after the first season of it, debating whether I want to add it to the cable package for $12/month. Anyways, what are your thoughts on the succession issue? the more I think about it, the more I wonder if the bastardy issue was really that important

    Just buy Torchwood on DVD, I think it is on sale on Amazon.  Or you could download it from iTunes or Amazon. Either way you save money from a subscription.And all the talk of illegitimacy of Edward IV is music to the ears of the Richard III society  ::)

  • #18294

    Kbird
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    I think that the Duke of Richmond was smart enough to stay out of everyone's way and that if he had lived, he would've supported whichever sibling was there wholeheartedly.  Of course I base this on the mere fact that he was able to stay alive so long and not be burned alive for some kind of religious misdemeanor.  Maybe if he had outlasted Queen Elizabeth but how old would that have made him?

  • #18295

    anonymous
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    What about Edward III? Was Edward II really able to do his duty. Or was someone else Edward III's daddy? If we can believe Mel Gibson, maybe it was William Wallace!

  • #18296

    WhovianKate
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    don't think that the new Torchwood (taking place in the US it's a new series not in Cardiff Wales) is out on DVD but I will check, thanks for the suggestion!

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