Migration || Invasion

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    The Hedge

    Have wondered about migration vs invasion – and certainly it isn't a pure either/or thing.The difficulty for me seems to be the comparative paucity of British or Roman words in English - Even the place names seem to be almost entirely Saxon in the east of England.There are Latin influences, certainly, but most of these seem to come from after 1066.  But if the British population had been absorbed rather than mostly supplanted there ought to be more than the odd "Brin Hill" or "River Avon" to signify.  Even the Vikings left a bigger dent on English than the Gaels, if my understanding is correct.Maybe I've been using the wrong model in my head.  The settlement of New England was largely peaceful - only three or four big battles between 1620 and 1700 (Pequot & King Philip's Wars), but lots of fighting nevertheless - and lots of collaboration too.  But almost no intermarrying and I think you have to go further west before Native American place names become common.  That kind of satisfies both migration and invasion, depending on how you look at it I guess.

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    Well now, don't forget for large swaths, it is kind of inaccurate to think of them as “The native British peoples ” as if they acted as the original natives. They had been subjugated …more or less .. by the Roman Imperium for quite some time, and there was doubtless a heavy trend towards Latin in most of the population. Certainly any leadership would have spoken it, as well as any important traders, merchants, educators, or clergymen. Doubtless a form of British still existed, but it would have had it's own Germanic roots and may have had overlap with the Anglo Saxon Invasion to a small degree coupled with existant overlap from Latin.

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