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  • #15379

    Tim the Enchanter
    Participant

    Hey polls are fun! 

  • #16869

    Zoie
    Participant

    Why is there no WW2 on this list?!?!? :o

  • #16870

    Tim the Enchanter
    Participant

    Sorry Zoie, how silly of me.  I probably left loads of things out,,,

  • #16871

    anonymous
    Participant

    The Wars of the Roses. . . Edwardian. . .WWII. . .Anglo Saxons. . .Middle ages. . .Elizabethan. . . Hard to choose!

  • #16872

    anonymous
    Participant

    aahh, the War of the Roses; that should be fun  ;)

  • #16873

    Diane
    Participant

    WW1, colonialism, and history in pop culture. I hope you do an episode on movies, not necessarily reviews (although I have a feeling you won't be able to resist) but depictions of British history in (on?) film; after all, history is interpretive, and a lot can be said about general perceptions simply through how one tells a story.

  • #16874

    Jamie
    Keymaster

    (I know this poll isn't for me, but you can put me down for The Wars of the Roses, too.  I'm terrified of covering it… but I think it's going to be an incredible ride!)

  • #16875

    anonymous
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    You'll be fine.  It definitely will be fun.  We'll start a thread of alternate reality and discuss what if. . . .

  • #16876

    Eldgeth
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    Henry II!  Eleanor of Aquataine!Don't sweat the Wars of the Roses too much.  As many books as I've read, I still get confused.

  • #16877

    Tangwystl
    Participant

    The folks between Edward II and Richard III.  I always lose focus around John of Gaunt.  Also, Matilda, Lady of the English.  The Empress in Henry FitzEmpress. Also, Elizabeth Plantagenet TudorBut not just the royalty, the little folks too!!!

  • #16878

    byramja
    Participant

    I know the polls are closed, but I just joined the forum (long time listener, extremely lazy college student, etc)… please include a vote for:War of the RosesThe NormansThe castle building boom during Edward I after the crusades (especially those built/ designed by Master James of St Georges)and maybe a Whelsh-cast as a follow up to Scotcast?

  • #16879

    Barefoot Bree
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    Every time I swing by the forum, I look at this thread and try to answer it; but I have no answer. There isn't any particular bit I'm looking forward to more than the rest; I'm looking forward to ALL of it!

  • #16880

    Eldgeth
    Participant

    I am looking forward to hearing more about the Queens of England, yes, after the Conquest.  I particularly am interested in Isabelle of Angouleme (forgive my spelling if it's off)  She was supposed to marry Hugh de Lusignant, then married  King John instead.  And, if what I have read is correct…she accompanied her daughter to France to marry Hugh's son, also named Hugh de Lusignant (how confusing is that?).  But he was such a good catch that she threw her own daugher aside and married him herself!  I mean, is that strange, marrying your former fiance's son?And her marriage to John lead to the loss of England's territories in France. 

  • #16881

    drewster81
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    Honestly, aside from the events I know and love, I'm most excited about exploring the Welsh kingdoms and the development of Scotland into a unified country.  People tend to just let those two orbit England's development.  All of sudden, they are no longer British and/or Pictish.  Simon Schama is especially bad about this, given that he did a “History of Britain”.  And given Jamie's ancestry, I have a feeling Gwynedd will be explored (yea!). ;)  Also interested to see how much of Ireland's history is brought in, given how integrated it becomes (at least on the surface) with the British state.Also, the intricacies of the Empire's development, especially in India, will be fascinating.  I've read about how it all developed but the early British interaction with India (17th to mid -18th century) is a big blind spot for me.  I know about the East India Company and the creation of factories there, but how was the local population co-opted? What were the deals that secured more land?  I recognize that, given the pace of the podcast, I'll probably be collecting AARP by this point, but I'm still looking forward to it.  PS: I'm in now way complaining about the pace.  It's the necessary depth to really get to know the figures of each era and it's nice to know that we'll be in this for several years.  :)

  • #16882

    Jamie
    Keymaster

    With regard to India and the Raj, we actually have a listener who was raised in India and is quite well educated on the Raj period from the Indian perspective.  So when we finally get there, I'm hoping he's still a listener and is still interested in talking to us about it, because I think that perspective will be really useful in the analysis of what happened.And yes, I've been plotting this out and I think it's at least a 5 year project at its current pace.  Haha!

  • #16883

    drewster81
    Participant

    Excellent!  I've been with Mike Duncan for the past 3 or so years and his is winding down in the next few weeks of course.  So no worries, I'm in it for the long haul. :)

  • #16884

    anonymous
    Participant

    Drew, I'll miss Mike Duncan  :'(I can't believe nobody has voted for the Normans.The legal mishmash is fascinating in itself - try reading Bernard Knight's Crowner John series.

  • #16885

    Chris
    Participant

    I am really looking forward to listening about the legends of King Arthur, what we actually know, what we'd like to know and what is just total rubbish!! This is one enigmatic character that would make a good episode (or at least part of one).Can we re-open the poll and maybe add a few more options. The poll was closed before I registered  :(

  • #16886

    Jamie
    Keymaster

    I've reopened the poll.  It'll stay open indefinitely now.  You can click “show results” to see what people have selected.

  • #16887

    anonymous
    Participant

    Honestly, aside from the events I know and love, I'm most excited about exploring the Welsh kingdoms and the development of Scotland into a unified country.  People tend to just let those two orbit England's development.  All of sudden, they are no longer British and/or Pictish.  Simon Schama is especially bad about this, given that he did a "History of Britain".  And given Jamie's ancestry, I have a feeling Gwynedd will be explored (yea!). ;)  Also interested to see how much of Ireland's history is brought in, given how integrated it becomes (at least on the surface) with the British state.Also, the intricacies of the Empire's development, especially in India, will be fascinating.  I've read about how it all developed but the early British interaction with India (17th to mid -18th century) is a big blind spot for me.  I know about the East India Company and the creation of factories there, but how was the local population co-opted? What were the deals that secured more land?  I recognize that, given the pace of the podcast, I'll probably be collecting AARP by this point, but I'm still looking forward to it.  PS: I'm in now way complaining about the pace.  It's the necessary depth to really get to know the figures of each era and it's nice to know that we'll be in this for several years.  :)

    Drew,Do a search for BBC's History of Scotland.  Neil Oliver is the host; the program does a nice job of presenting Scottish history, including stuff I was unaware of, for example, I had never heard of Brunanburh until I watched this series.

  • #16888

    Chris
    Participant

    I enjoyed watching Neil Oliver, amongst other presenters, in the BBC documentary series Coast that, for anyone who is not aware of this series, is about the social and natural history of Britain's Coastline. Worth a look.

  • #16889

    drewster81
    Participant

    Drew,Do a search for BBC's History of Scotland.  Neil Oliver is the host; the program does a nice job of presenting Scottish history, including stuff I was unaware of, for example, I had never heard of Brunanburh until I watched this series.

    I actually watched it when I was living in Scotland.  But...did he ever finish it?  I seem to remember it dropping off at some point.  Maybe he took a break.  Also, that was three years ago, so perhaps a refresher is due. :)  And Chris, I clearly need to watch Coast.  Sounds fascinating and right up my alley.

  • #16890

    Chris
    Participant

    And Chris, I clearly need to watch Coast.  Sounds fascinating and right up my alley.

    I think you would like it. There's about 6 series I think and each episode shows some impressive veiws of the British coastline. It stands to reason that there will be a lot of aerial photography for this programme.Here's some random clips with Neil Oliver and the other presenters of Coast.[youtube]http://youtu.be/qxTu7j9fZjw[/youtube][youtube]http://youtu.be/XFFgv8BZfcc[/youtube][youtube]http://youtu.be/E0k1EVCHP2g[/youtube][youtube]http://youtu.be/as-meSBcbY0[/youtube][youtube]http://youtu.be/YaTmEL3RwjI[/youtube]

  • #16891

    drewster81
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    Ah, I remember reading about the Caledonian Canal when I lived there, so when we took vacations in the Highlands I got a chance to take a look.  It really is impressive, even if it didn't get used as much as expected.  Thanks for posting Chris.  MOST appreciated. ;)

  • #16892

    carleerun
    Participant

    I think I'm the only one who voted for the Civil Wars!! Anybody want to join me? I'm lonely out here!

  • #16893

    carleerun
    Participant

    Lyrics to Monty Pythons Oliver Cromwell.  :)The most interesting thing about King Charles, the firstIs that he was 5 foot 6 inches tall at the start of his reignBut only 4 foot 8 inches tall at the end of it because ofOliver Cromwell, Lord Protector of England PuritanBorn in 1599 and died in 1658 SeptemberWas at first only MP for Hunting Don, but then he led the Ironside CavalryAt Mars ton Moor in 1644 and won then he founded the New Model ArmyAnd praise be, beat the Cavaliers at Naisby and the King fled up NorthLike a bat to the ScotsBut under the terms of John Pimm's Solemn League and CovenantThe Scots handed King Charles the first, over toOliver Cromwell, Lord Protector of England and his wartsBorn in 1599 and died in 1658 SeptemberBut alas, oy vay! The disagreement then broke out betweenThe Presbyterian Parliament and the Military who meantTo have an independent bent and so the 2nd Civil War broke outAnd the Roundhead ranks faced the Cavaliers at Preston BanksAnd the King lost again, silly thing, stupid GitAnd Cromwell sent Colonel Pride to purge the House of CommonsOf the Presbyterian Royalists leaving behind only the rump ParliamentWhich appointed a High Court at Westminster Hall to indictCharles, the first for tyranny, ooh! Charles was sentenced to deathEven though he refused to accept that the court had jurisdictionSay goodbye to his headPoor King Charles laid his head on the blockJanuary 1649, down came the axe and in the silence that followedThe only sound that could be heard was a solitary giggle fromOliver Cromwell, Lord Protector of England, oleBorn in 1599 and died in 1658 SeptemberThen he smashed Ireland, set up the Commonwealth and moreHe crushed the Scots at Worcester and beat the Dutch at sea in 1653And then he dissolved the rump ParliamentAnd with Lambert's consent wrote the instrument of GovernmentUnder which Oliver was Protector at lastThe end

  • #16894

    Tim the Enchanter
    Participant

    Lyrics to Monty Pythons Oliver Cromwell.  :)

    Brilliant.

  • #16895

    JJ
    Participant

    Can I vote more than once? It's too hard to decide…but I voted for the Middle Ages. I always like hearing about the Black Death.

  • #16896

    anonymous
    Participant

    For me, it has to be the Victorians;The drinking, the whoring, the fighting, the killing and then the pious Sunday school "play up and play the game" hypocrisy. Surely they are the poster child for Britain. No half measures. One minute virtually running the slave trade in the name of the Lord and John Company, the next minute smiting at the hip and the thigh with a vigour John Brown would admire. Plus, the desperate adventures over hills, valleys, deserts and jungles. Last stands, great works of engineering and world changing inventions against a backdrop of poverty, greed and oppression. They really did create a modern Rome. Of course, the Tudors are pretty brilliant; pirates, adventurers and traders. They come a really close 2nd, but they will never beat the line "Zulus sarge, thousands of em"

  • #16897

    Georgina
    Participant

    I would like to hear Jamie's take on Britain's role in World War I – what he thinks Britain's role was in starting the war.

  • #16898

    Liam
    Participant

    Cant see this mentioned by anyone and its not something ive ever even thought about till just now but pirates would be pretty fun, given how most people are facincted by them at some point in life (albeit normally when we're about five)

  • #16899

    Jonny the Grognard
    Participant

    I'd have to say that I am most looking forward to Napoleonic era.

  • #16900

    Tanja
    Participant

    I canot wait until The War of the Roses... I have a skew-if idea of it, mainly because I have read half a rainforest of fiction books consisting of the following plots:1. One of King Edward IV's lady "fancies" was deflowered by himself at a young age, sent off to a nunnery to do penance... but comes back as the illegitimate slave of her father... to be picked up by mysterious stranger and sent to see her once-lover again... will their love be re-kindled???2. An ex-conquest of King Henry VI's has a baby, the jealous Anjou Lancastrian wife tries to kill the concubine and the baby. Concubine dies. Baby lives. Baby grows up in forest into beautiful, psychic teenage chic. Teenage chic runs frivolous errand in town, falls in love with Edward the IV and he loves her...psychic revelations are blurred... can their love ever be????3. Please read in Paul Hogan Aussie Accent...Elizabeth Wydeville is a witch. So is her mum, Jacquetta..."Jacks" for short. Lizzy hooks up with Eddy in a forest after she casts a spell to her Witchy-Poo rello from ancient times who happens to be some kind of druidic water nymph...o. Anyway, Lizzy bags Eddy under a tree in secret. Eddy waits until Earl of Warwick has tried to hook him up with ugly daughter Isabelle. Issy is p*ssed. Eddy is chuffed. Lizzy is relieved that she bagged a winner. Jacks hangs out with her water nympho covern to cast spells, make potions and crap on about how loud the telly is these days and whatever else old women crap on about in senior citizens clubs.  Eddy tells the world he has married his bit of stuff. Eddy then buggers off to get a new piece of a*se while Lizzy pumps out the brats at home. Everyone starts accusing Lizzy of being a witch coz she only shoots out the XX chromosome. In the end, Lizzy fades, new piece of a*se gets a house in Chelsea... but will their love prevail???The real story would be wonderful.

  • #16901

    anonymous
    Participant

    I am totally on board for Matilda, Henry II and Eleanor of Aquitaine, and Richard III. Hell, any of the Plantagenets work for me!

  • #16902

    Tanja
    Participant

    And Chris, I clearly need to watch Coast.  Sounds fascinating and right up my alley.

    I think you would like it. There's about 6 series I think and each episode shows some impressive veiws of the British coastline. It stands to reason that there will be a lot of aerial photography for this programme.Here's some random clips with Neil Oliver and the other presenters of Coast

    Aaaaah Neil Oliver... my archaelogical pin up boy... I have the book, "Ancient History of Britain" and he is gracing the rear cover, in only what I can describe as a "paint me like one of your French Girls" pose. I may be in love.  :-*

  • #16903

    anonymous
    Participant

    Jamie —Now that you have sound effects every time a son dies and sound effects for bucolic times and . . . When you start to cover the Wars of the Roses, you'll need theme music for the families and clans, bells and whistles for certain characters, etc.  Soap opera themes?  Young and the Restless, Coronation Street, Dr Who?  (I wouldn't have included the Dr as a soap, but ever since Rose we have to admit the inevitable, Sweetie.) ;D

  • #16904

    ellis
    Participant

    …..the creation of the Bayeux tapestry and courtly intrigues of Thomas Cromwell!!!!! Not at the same time, of course, but I'm really into art history, especially when textiles come into the picture. Also, I really loved Wolf Hall and Bring Up The Bodies.

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