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  • #15766

    Jamie
    Keymaster

    Oh dear… Crusader Kings II just released a demo, and releases the full version in a week.  It's made by the same people who made Europa Universalis III.  I'm torn.  I really really want to play this.  But I don't think I'll have the time for it since, you know, I've got podcasting to do. If anyone gives this a try, could you let me know how it is and how it compares to CK1 and EU3?http://www.paradoxplaza.com/games/crusader-kings-ii

  • #18778

    Digital Unicorn
    Participant

    Jamie, CK2 is THE BEST! Super complicated but, so good once you get the swing of it. Its got so much depth and so many options, and so much 'historicity'. Plus you can play as William the Bastard/Conquerer, so what's not to love?Rome : TW is a PC gaming masterpiece. I think its the game I've played the. most, like, ever. I've controlled the world with almost every faction and just love it too bits.

  • #18779

    Jamie
    Keymaster

    It's the paradox game that really made them famous.  It's like CK2, but way bigger (especially when you get all the expansions).I love that game almost as much as I love Kerouac.  ;)

  • #18780

    Jonny the Grognard
    Participant

    CK2 is a weird game for paradox to make, as it has understandable tutorials.

  • #18781

    Jamie
    Keymaster

    Also, it didn't have game breaking bugs included in its launch version.

  • #18782

    Jonny the Grognard
    Participant

    Always a good thing. CK2 is a great game, though that may just be because it allows me to destroy France, which is always a good thing and is, also one of the reasons I like the total war series.

  • #18783

    Digital Unicorn
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    CK2 is a weird game for paradox to make, as it has understandable tutorials.

    Haha, so obviously you didn't buy it at launch? I'm pretty sure none of those were in at release, in its place were the classic paradox blunder in the dark game intros. The ones that make sense must have been in the patches, lol.

  • #18784

    Jonny the Grognard
    Participant

    Actually I did buy it at launch and it did have understandable tutorials in it.

  • #18785

    Digital Unicorn
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    Actually I did buy it at launch and it did have understandable tutorials in it.

    No way! Lol, I must admit, I had only 'heard' that from others, I picked up the mechanics by watching a few quickklooks and youtube playthroughs, i'd heard bad stuff about the tutes so I just avoided them. Not that bad huh?Maybe everyone else is just dumb? Or alternatively your super smart, lol.

  • #18786

    Jonny the Grognard
    Participant

    Actually I did buy it at launch and it did have understandable tutorials in it.

    No way! Lol, I must admit, I had only 'heard' that from others, I picked up the mechanics by watching a few quickklooks and youtube playthroughs, i'd heard bad stuff about the tutes so I just avoided them. Not that bad huh?Maybe everyone else is just dumb? Or alternatively your super smart, lol.

    Well of course I am. The tutorials were fairly comprehensive and, dare I say it, fun.

  • #18787

    Jamie
    Keymaster

    Crusader Kings 2 is 75% off on Steam today.  It's pretty great and I wish I had more time to play it, honestly.

  • #18788

    Jonny the Grognard
    Participant

    Have you seen the game of thrones mod for Crusader kings 2. It is really awesome.

  • #18789

    Stein
    Participant

    this game is great I love playing it just got it for 10 bucks on steam

  • #18790

    Bad_haggis
    Participant

    Hey Jamie, I'm currently working on a Fall of the Roman empire mod for CK2, and your early podcasts are invaluable for me to try and piece everything together (especially for Britain, where it's hard to find a narrative flow sometimes). So thanks very much for doing it  :D.http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?680758-Mod-Saeculum-Obscurum-A-Late-Antiquity-Mod

  • #18791

    anonymous
    Participant

    If I purchase this on Steam, do I have to be connected to the internet everytime I want to play?

  • #18792

    stcroix95
    Participant

    Ok, thats it.  I am going to break down and get CK2

  • #18793

    taloon
    Participant

    75% off sale on Steam for the next 30 hours: http://store.steampowered.com/app/203770/ Going on in the US and Europe at least. Most DLC is on sale, except for the newest. Note those bundles also don't include Old Gods and the related cosmetic stuff, but OG is only $3.74, and worth it at full price even since it expands back to 867 and has VIKINGS!Sales are pretty frequent and I'll try to keep you guys up to date on any I come across if you miss this one.

  • #18794

    taloon
    Participant

    If you've read Bernard Cornwell's 'Saxon Stories' series, you'll like this one. http://www.reddit.com/r/CrusaderKings/comments/20j2fi/but_i_am_uhtred_son_of_uhtred_and_this_is_the/Not my play through but since I just finished book 7 this made me smile.

  • #18795

    Heroes182
    Participant

    Ah, I've got a CK2 story! Gather round…I was playing House Ua Briain (Kingdom of Munster), and I was in a fairly comfortable situation. My previous character had set up a couple of advantageous marriages, which coupled with a bit of military might had taken my current character from only controlling half of Munster, to Duke several times over, controlling enough of Ireland that I could have created the Kingdom of Ireland if only I'd had (a lot) more money. "No problem!" I thought. "I may be in my twilight years, but my one and only adult son should be able to sort that out. By this time next generation, we'll be millionaires Kings!".At this point, my long-time wife died of natural causes, taking my alliance with Dorset to the grave with her. "This won't do!" I thought. "I need a new Ally Wife!". A brief look through the local singles section later, I had a perfect match - a 22 year old Welsh Princess! Gwynedd + Munster = BFF4EVAA few months later, I get a notification. My hot young wife is pregnant! "There's life in the old dog yet" I thought. "An heir and a spare, that's what I say". Four pregnancies later, I wasn't so chipper anymore. I'm 99% sure she's cheating on me (how could she??), but since neither my character nor Spymaster suspect anything, there's nothing I can do in-game (except get her killed for no apparent in-game reason, but I didn't want to go down the kin-slayer route). "No big deal" I thought. "What's the worst that could happen?".A few years later, my character died at the ripe old age of 68. Never having suspected a thing about his lecherous wife, he passed on with a smile on his face, content in the knowledge that he had left House Ua Briain on the brink of greatness.New character! The once and future king of Ireland, no less! Let's see what we've got to play with this generation. Decent stats, good. Gets along with his vassals, excellent. Married to a diplomatically skilled lass, perfect. Just gonna check his relationship status with his family members now. Siblings are ok, in the 20s-40s. Stepmother is at 100, wow! Let's take a closer look..."Your lover."wat.I'M A MONSTER!!!!Not only have I -not- been producing heirs with my actual wife, I've been busy producing an increasing amount of rival claimants with my steplovermother!!! Not only that, my dearest siblings also carry the blood of Gwynedd, so I now have a former ally getting all chummy with my rival claimants, looking hungrily at my father's hard-earned lands.I think I'll play a pagan next. They're probably a lot less depraved than this lot...

  • #18796

    Jamie
    Keymaster

    Hahahaha!  Oh man, stories like that are why I insist it's the greatest game ever made.  :)

  • #18797

    anonymous
    Participant

    Hmmm…. and there's a Mac version…  8)

  • #18798

    brenairene
    Participant

    Sorry Guys but you really need to get out more!!

  • #18799

    anonymous
    Participant

    So, I love EU4 and I keep thinking about picking this one up and giving it a go. . .but even during steam sales, the cost is well outside what I'm willing to spend when you include all the unit packs. . .are they needed? what do they add?

  • #18800

    ravenight
    Participant

    You don't need the unit packs, they just add graphics to make the different types of units more detailed (like now turkish troops look more turkish or whatever) – you really only need the expansion DLC, the things that add features you're interested in. Particularly the different starts like Charlemange, Old Gods, and the cool stuff like Way of Life.And to whet your appetite here's one of my recent stories:So I'm playing as Powys in a Charlemagne start, and I've grabbed my de jure territory, holding the counties directly. I look around and find a claimant to a nearby territory to invite to court, then grant him one of the counties and win him the one with his claim. Meanwhile, I've married a genius and had 3 sons, the third of which inherited the genius trait. So I'm considering options that will allow me to play as the third son. Just as the war is ending, my second son takes ill and dies. Now I'd like to expand further, but I can't pull the giveaway-press claim trick unless I revoke a territory first. So I plot to revoke one of the two my new vassal now has, succeed in the plot and the vassal rebels to stop me. I move my armies in to crush him, and get killed in the battle. I win the war, but as my son who is still 9 or 10. So now the genius is my brother and heir, at the age of 5 or so.I've now got 3 counties, plus a vassal in prison who hates me. I invite a claimant to the remaining county from Gwynedd, give him the Gwynedd county I own, and attack and conquer the remaining one. So now I have a powerful vassal that loves me unconditionally and another one that hates me completely, and is running a faction from prison. And my ambitious uncle (who therefore also hates me), has taken over as regent.Unbeknownst to me, my powerful ally in East Anglia has died, so just as I settle in to consolidate and regain strength, my southern neighbor attacks and calls in Mercia. I try a desperate gamble, hiring mercs I can barely afford and bribing my uncle with honorary titles and wards so he'll let me sell off a prisoner. I win a big battle and disband the mercs, but Mercia brings in more troops and destroys me. I find out that my rebellious vassal is leading a plot so I have him arrested with the plan of revoking his county so I can get more troops. He escapes arrest and attacks. So faced with 2 wars and very few troops, I surrender to my neighbor and his allies (losing a de jure county, but it became independent). I gather all my troops and just before the rebellious count is going win a siege, attack a raise the defending levies. I hope to reduce his forces enough to break the siege, but the end result is that losing the battle loses me the war instantly. So game over right? Or at least a long rebuilding process ahead of me. Except it turns out that the war the rebel count waged was to install my brother as king instead of me. Instead of being down to 3 counties, only 1 directly held, and still having to find a way to play as the genius brother, now I am the genius, I have 4 counties and easily take back the 5th, the rebel has a positive opinion of me, and to top it all off, I no longer owe money to the Jews.So... I highly recommend this game.

  • #18801

    gartut
    Participant

    Ahhhh im so glad that some members on here Play CK2 to be fair never played multiplayer on the game, mainly because of Pardox's weird authentication rules between games. I am currently Emperor of the UK, France and Northern kingdoms of Flanders and Germany. I keep getting the pesky Irish revolting against me. But i really love the game it can really get you thinking mainly about succession. But if anyone wants a crack with me let me know. Steam name is King Spamhole the Third. Also anyone playing EUIV

  • #30824

    Marcus Cartier
    Participant

    I think I’ll jump on here and quickly describe my game as the Duchy of Bohemia (now Kingdom of Czechia, Kingdom of Poland, Kingdom Jerusalem) That I’m playing with a friend of mine (Duchy of Saxony). We started in the 1066 bookmark and decided we were bored of being a part of the HRE and we rebelled and succeeded! My Saxon friend got in a fight with Denmark while I started marrying children. Soon the HRE looked to reclaim land from Saxony and succeeded. My friend promptly rejoined the HRE, plotting to take back some of their land. When they came to me looking to take back land they were met with the might of Sweden, France, an engorged Poland and an engorged Hungary (They hungered for Wallachia’s land.) I was able to retain my land and later merge my kingdom (Bohemia) with Poland. Later my Saxon friend got an heir who is now possessed, a reincarnation of his Aunt, and Werewolf (And was elected Emporer when he wasn’t looking). He one a crusade and got me the kingdom of Jerualem. Now I have to consolidate my succession and expand northwards so I can form the Wendish empire (and rename it Grand Czechia). I may also absorb Sicily…

  • #31373

    Andrew Anderson
    Participant

    I’ve played Paradox games for years, ever since i found the first HOI. I’ve owned all the HOI series, EU II, III and IV. Victoria I & II and now just jumped in to CK2 with both feet buying all the DLC’s. I really enjoy it so far, the intrigue and close attention to managing people. my experience is still limited and i haven’t played to the 1000s yet but I think it could be improved upon by having more options through war and diplomacy. Also, as I learned through the podcast, the Francs naval patrols discouraged the Vikings from raiding and I’m suprised there is no naval combat. even if it’s just grappling and boarding.

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